When you have a child with a known donor, or with an anonymous donor, it's wonderful to be able to speak openly about it from a very young age. We never sat our kids down and had a discussion about this. We just talked about it in front of them from the day they were born. And when this happens, then the children just take in all the information and when they're ready to ask questions, they ask the questions they need to ask. And it's very similar to adoption, where if you just talk about it from the moment of birth, it's not a secret, it's not an issue. You just say to the person in the room, "Oh, doesn't he have his dad's eyes?" or, "Doesn't he like like his donor when he cries?" And it just becomes common knowledge, and it becomes open. And when they started asking the questions about how two women can have a baby or when they're faced with their peers' questions at school, "Who's your real mom? How do two moms have a baby? You can't have two moms." The way we told them the story is that having a baby is like making a cake. You need all these ingredients, you need flour, you need sugar, you need love, you need boy cells, you need girl cells, and we had all of the ingredients to make a child but one. So just like borrowing a cup of sugar from the neighbor, we borrowed the ingredient of boy cells to make them.