So there's a lot of talk about bonding in adoption. And one thing I like to make clear to parents is that bonding is a biological process and it happens between a baby and its biological mother in a short window of time after birth. So really what we're talking about in adoption is creating a healthy attachment, which is a psychosocial process. And one of the best ways to lay a foundation for healthy attachment is for the adoptive parent to really be able to hold in his or her consciousness what the child has really gone through. So if it's an infant adoption, the infant, the newborn was separated from his or her mother at birth, that is a painful bio-neurological experience. So the parent can hold the baby and say, "Yeah you really miss your connection. I don't smell right, I don't heartbeat right, but I'm here for you and I'm glad we're together." Or if it's an older child who's come out of foster care, same thing. It's the same principle, to really just hold your child's own experience and out of that, let empathy grow, and that's a ground for attachment.